Rules discoveries

[Wallie]

Let's all share some rules discoveries we've seen that are a major change from 5th.

You can no longer charge on the turn you come in from reserves or first turn if you've infiltrated. This kills Snikrot. Hurts Kroot. Really hurts genestealers. Hurts Striking Scorpions a lot. Webway portals went from meh to shitty. Now if you're using them, it's to bring your shooty elements out.

You can only place half your units in reserve now, unless they always come in from reserves (daemons, drop pods). However, if you have a character joined to a unit in their dedicated transport, that's only 1 unit.

Assaulting is much different and you can charge major long now. Roll 2d6, move the first guy into b2b as before. Repeat with the rest of your models. Then, when this is all done, you all pile in up to 3" in initiative order, to make sure you get as many guys in combat as possible. This goes for all sides.

Grenades are super awesome now!

So many other tiny things too. Poor Eldar really got kicked in the nuts this edition. Possibly the worst book in the game as far as balance compared to the rules. This obviously changes come their new book. But right now, for instance, their farseers are only mastery level 1. So they can use 1 power with 1 warpcharge in a turn. Yet they can have like 8 powers. Such a bad set of rules for them.

Overall though, so far without trying them, I am really digging the rules. WAAC players are gonna hate them though. Basically, if you hate fantasy you'll hate 40k.

MWAHAHAH... just read this: Blood Angels priest powers only work on blood angels, not allies. No FNP Thunderwolves!

[Court]

Codex Marines are using brackets, (might be the same for others) meaning T5 natural bikes.

Also special abilities are looking like they are limited, so all the special character rules from Marines can only be used by other Vanilla marines.

Chaiplans now have Powe Mauls, +2 STR AP4.

Techmarines can repair Hull poits.

Combat squads can both get into their transport if theres room.

FEARLESS - can't go to ground, auto pass checks and no longer take armor saves from lost combat.

[Wallie]

Are marines fearless though? They can still go to ground I assume.

[Court]

The fearless was USR, not codex, sorry for the confusion.

New missle type for ML, a Flak load that has skyfire.

Vehicle Squadrons - IMmoblizied no longer kills a member, its immoblilized and the rest of the squadron can leave it behind. You than treat it as a seperate unit till it's wrecked or game end.

[Court]

MOVEMENT - you can elect to keep models in a unit stationary, you simply declare they are not moving. ie keep the heavy weapon till while the unit moves about, still needs to keep coherency though.

- you can pre-measure movement distances, once you've moved models it's like chess, no moving back.

[Deleted]

Idk if the old rules had this but specialist weapons(Power fist, Thunder hammer etc.) can be dual wielded to recive a bonus attack for two close combat weapons.

[Court]

Yeah that was a 5th edition rule as well.

Vehicles can now suffer glances from Get Hot, if you roll a 1 on vehicle with plasma, than roll a further 1-3, it takes a glancing hit.

[Iferg]

Unwieldy- So power fists, chainfists, power AXES etc stirke at int 1 not init -1 like previously thought, means can take axes get +1str and 2ccw but hit init 1. Interesting...

[Deleted]

and putting an independent char into a unit will give the ability to always rally even under 25% strength...
and eldar jetbikes can now move 60 inches in a round!

[Wallie]

Psychic Powers must have LOS unless otherwise stated. If you are in a vehicle you can only target yourself, the unit in the vehicle or the vehicle itself. You also can't target someone embarked if you aren't in the vehicle with them. Psychics in the unit give you a bonus to Deny the Witch as well.

[Wallie]

Weapon Destroyed result is now a random weapon! No longer choosing which one goes.

[jimmybalmer]

Here's something I'm confused on. When allocating wounds in shooting and you have a character in front do you keep allocating wounds to him till he's dead or allocate one and pass the rest back? I'm assuming the former it just seams kinda odd?

[Wallie]

The first, yes. However he can make Look Out Sirs (4+ for unit bosses, 2+ for characters) for each one. We learned quickly in test games to put your characters in the middle.

[Court]

Remember it's un-saved wounds you allocate, after saves are made.

[Wallie]

Yup! I really like the wound allocation rules now. Nice and easy and makes you think about unit placement.

Another discovery: You get armor saves against dangerous terrain now.